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September 27, 2007... 9:00am
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He's
also the co-creator (along with
Ross Abrash writer of "Mr.
Monk and the Employee of the Month")
of
Underfunded a series developed
for the USA Network which has yet
to be picked up. Unlike
most of the Monk writers,
who work
in New Jersey, David has settled
in Los Angeles where Monk
is filmed.
David
agreed to do a phone interview with
me and graciously answered almost
all of my questions.
MFP:
Has Monk been renewed for season
seven?
David:
Oh, gosh, I’m so sorry to
be coy right out of the gate. The
answer as of this conversation is
no, but between you and me it looks
promising. I’d say there’s
a seventy or eighty percent chance
we’ll be back for another
year.
MFP:
Do Tony and the other producers
want to continue for another season?
David:
All of us would love to come back,
yes.
MFP: USA
wouldn’t have the network
they have today if it weren’t
for Tony and the show.
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That’s probably true. I mean
Monk is their flagship
-- the pride of their fleet. We’re
proud of the work we do as writers,
but there’s no question that
Tony being the superlative actor
that he is, is probably the primary
reason the show is so successful.
MFP:
I don’t know. You give him
everything to say, so I think you
writers count right up there.
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David:
Make sure you underline that.
MFP:
Okay.
David: Italicize it as well and
put it in bold.
MFP:
It looks like for season six the
ratings have leveled off a little.
Is that a concern for the network?
David:
Actually, they’ve been happy
with the ratings. We do very well
for ourselves and we deliver a very
big audience to Psych
which follows our show at ten o’clock.
MFP:
Maybe this is something you can
talk about: what can we expect to
see in the second half of season
six, without revealing too much,
of course?
David: I can talk about that –
circumspectly anyway. Monk will
be solving various mysteries and
acting in a very eccentric way.
Okay, the second part is off the
record. Of course I’m kidding.
You are going to be seeing Monk
in various hopefully clever and
fun situations like – I’ll
be coy again, but your readers are
bright and will read between the
lines – Monk may or may not
be accused of murder and find himself
in very hot water. So the…
hindquarters Monk will be saving
in that particular show will be
his own. You may or may not be seeing
a special two-part episode. You
may or may not be seeing Monk going
undercover and infiltrating a Reverend
Moon type cult. You may or may not
be seeing Monk taking up painting
as a hobby and then stumbling into
a terrible crime. These are a few
of the things you may or may not
be seeing in the months ahead.
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MFP:
May we or may we not be seeing John
Turturro come back as Ambrose?
David: Alas, that’s not even
a possibility this season. We’d
love for it to happen in the future
though.
MFP:
How about Kevin Dorfman?
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David:
Um… Kevin is…. I’d
rather not give the game away. I’m
very sorry.
MFP:
No problem. Are there any guest
stars you can mention?
David: Yes, hold on, let me think.
Some prominent guest stars as of
now? [Long pause.] Let’s move
on for now. I’m so sorry I’m
just kind of rousing myself here.
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MFP:
Yes, it’s kind of early.
David: Well, for me it’s early.
I’m the kind of guy -- as
are most of the writers -- we wake
up late and stay up late. [Laughs]
But let me think about that and
let you know in like 15 minutes.
MFP:
So is solving Trudy’s murder
and Monk’s reinstatement to
the force still goals for the show?
David: Yes. That’s the over-arching
goal… the through line of
the show. Of course, sometimes it’s
more prominent than at other times,
but yes, that’s always Monk’s
chief concern.
MFP:
So that hasn’t changed.
David: Nor will it.
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Monk Bobblehead
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MFP:
Do you plan on doing any filming
in San Francisco this year?
David: There are no immediate plans,
unfortunately. That could certainly
change between now and late November,
but it’s unlikely.
MFP:
We’d be happy to have you
up here.
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David:
Oh my gosh, and don’t think
we don’t love shooting up
there. It’s one of the loveliest
cities in North America, but it’s
purely a budgetary thing.
MFP:
Our film commission is desperate.
They may cut you a deal.
David: That’s perfect, because
we’re desperate too. So…
maybe it will happen.
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I want to ask a few questions about
“Mr. Monk is Up all Night.”
Everybody loved it [except the eye
doctor] by the way. The USA
website has a poll and it leads
[substantially] for the season.
David:
No kidding.
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MFP:
Yes.
David:
Okay, I’d like that perhaps
in bold as well, maybe a different
kind of font and I don’t know
if you have florescent colors.
MFP: Certainly.
David: Again I would have to attribute
that…. Obviously there’s
no question, Tony is a brilliant
actor and obviously the whole ensemble
is good, but I mostly would have
to attribute that to the writing,
wouldn’t you, Teresa?
MFP:
Oh, absolutely.
David:
There you go.
MFP: I might actually attribute
it directly to the last few scenes.
David: Yeah, the writing of the
last few scenes is what you mean.
MFP: Exactly.
David: No. Obviously it’s
very gratifying, but I’m not
going to take any credit for that.
By the way, Monk is a show
that is, in many respects, written
collectively. There are seven of
us, and the shows are outlined collectively
in the Writers’ Room. During
that time not only do we work out
the storylines, but lines of dialogue
are pitched out and even some of
the nuances that you see in the
episode are pitched out. Quite often
a lot of the ideas that you see
in an episode that people think
are clever may not generated by
the writer of record. It may have
been someone else in the room. Of
course, my brother Andy, the show
runner, takes a final pass on every
script himself. He does the final
rewrite on every script before it
goes before the cameras.
MFP:
I know you said in your writer’s
commentary that this one sprung
from a couple of ideas from Andy
and Hy
Conrad. Is that right?
David: Yes, yes.
MFP: But what in the script
can you point to and say, “That’s
all mine. That was me.”?
David: I can’t even…
that’s something I’m
reluctant to do. I’d actually
have to sit down with you and watch
it. But you know there are moments
since I’ve been working on
Monk…. I was off the show
for about half a year, but not counting
those episodes, where I didn’t
participate at all – in a
way it was kind of a blow to my
ego because those episodes, the
first half of season five –
those were some of the best episodes
ever. In fact I remember thinking,
“Oh my god, they don’t
need me at all.” I mean "Mr.
Monk and the Garbage Strike,"
"Mr.
Monk and the Actor"…
those were some great shows. But
everyone in the Writers’ Room
can point to moments in every episode
and claim them as his own.
MFP:
So it’s always a team effort?
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It’s largely a team effort,
but keep in mind the dominant creative
force behind Monk is a
triumvirate: It’s Tony Shalhoub
and my brother Andy and to a lesser
degree another executive producer
named Randy
Zisk, but everyone is essential
to the process.
MFP:
And Randy Zisk is also frequently
the director [as he was on “Up
All Night”], right?
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David:
Exactly. I would actually add….
I would say it’s a quartet.
I would also add Tom
Scharpling to that as well.
I mean all of us like to think we’re
indispensable, and we’re all
enormously important, but I would
say the first among equals are Andy,
Tom Scharpling, Tony and Randy Zisk.
MFP:
Is that where most of the decision
making occurs?
David:
Most of the decisions yes, but by
no means all.
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Tony Shalhoub
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Tom Scharpling
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MFP:
Back to “Up All Night.”
It seems to have a somewhat different
feel than most episodes… a
different structure. How did you
decide on that?
David: When you say it had a different
structure can you maybe expand on
that?
MFP: Well, in that it takes
place almost all in one night.
David: I think it just sprang out
of our eagerness to see how Monk
would handle insomnia and how he
would react to a crime if his faculties
were so impaired by having been
awake for 72 or 96 hours.
MFP:
The episode is also pretty light
on Natalie. Is that just what the
script called for?
David:
Yes, it was really just a function
of the structure and the structure
was imposed on us by the nature
of the problem Monk was facing.
We thought it would be more fun
if Monk was kind of out there on
his own, doubting his own senses.
If Natalie was with him corroborating
everything he was seeing, then we
wouldn’t be doing that.
MFP:
Whose idea was it to have Monk reading
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David: Hy kept pleading and begging
us to do that for years and we finally
gave in. No, not true, not true.
That’s a joke. Honestly, I
think someone in the room suggested
that Monk pick up a mystery novel
and I think originally it was an
Agatha Christie book. Someone had
pitched Monk opening the book to
page one and solving the case instantly
and being frustrated because now
he has to find some other way of
amusing himself at three o’clock
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Then
someone else -- I’ve forgotten
who -- had the idea of replacing
Agatha with Hy Conrad. We were thrilled
because it’s a great inside
joke.
MFP:
When you’re writing a script
like this do you picture who’s
going to play the role?
David: We usually imagine Tony Shalhoub
playing Monk.
MFP: Really?
David: Almost always. But you were
probably referring to our guest
stars.
MFP:
Right.
David: No, we don’t always
have an actor in mind, but it often
helps if you have a specific voice
in your head when you’re writing
a character. Occasionally we’ll
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So, for instance in “Rapper”
you would probably have had Snoop
Dog in mind?
David:
I think he was one of a few that
was on our short list. Certainly
when we were writing “Biggest
Fan,” we were hoping Sarah
Silverman would come back to
play Marci Maven. If Sarah was unavailable
we’d have changed the name
of the character and had another
Monk groupie show up. The story
would have played out the same way,
but we were glad to get her. We
wrote that part with Sarah in mind
back when we did “Mr.
Monk and the TV Star.”
There are other examples of this.
"Mr.
Monk and the Other Detective,"
the Jason
Alexander episode, I think was
one where we were hoping to get
Jason Alexander. He was certainly
our first choice. We were lucky,
because there’s no guarantee
that you’re going to get the
person you were hoping for.
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MFP:
Are you ever disappointed that an
aspect of the script doesn’t
come out like you thought it would?
David:
I think you just summed up my whole
life. But as for the scripts, of
course we are and I would say that
I think that’s certainly the
case with every writer in every
medium, not just television but
in features, novels, stage plays,
what have you. You always look back
on stories, even ones that you’re
very proud of and say, “Oh,
wow, I wish we had thought of this
at the time” or “I wish
we hadn’t thought of that
at the time.” Of course those
emotions fluctuate from mild to
extreme, but I doubt there’s
even one episode we don’t
wish we had another crack at.
MFP: There’s no perfect episode?
David:
Hmm… Well, I’m saying
no, but please put in parentheses
that I hope your readers will argue
the point, and loudly.
MFP: Okay. So was there anything
that was cut from “Up All
Night” that you thought they
should have kept in?
David:
There were a couple of things. First
of all I’m very proud that
my name is on that episode and I
think everybody did a great job,
but there were one or two things
that perhaps I would have done differently,
but I’m loathe to mention
them.
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MFP:
It’s been a few years now
since Bitty
Schram left. Still too soon
to talk about it?
David: Why don’t you get more
specific and we’ll see how
much I can reveal.
MFP: Was she simply dissatisfied
with the role or the money or was
there a genuine desire on the producers’
part to take the show in another
direction? Or both?
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David:
Yeah, I would say things were a
bit more complicated than the press
reported, but even now I’m
still reluctant to elaborate. Let
me just add, and I can’t go
into a lot of detail about those
complications, but I will say –
and take this as an article of faith
-- that it was never as simple as
just the money.
MFP:
So what was your reaction to the
fan reaction?
David:
I guess the short answer is, we
expected it. We expected some controversy.
We expected some indignation. We
knew how much people loved Bitty
and she was wonderful in the part,
no one’s arguing about that.
But I gotta say that we’re
thrilled to death with Traylor
Howard.
MFP:
So were you confident, knowing that
Bitty was leaving, that you could
get past it and go on?
David:
Frankly, not at first. We sure were
hoping we could. We had some great
stories we wanted to tell, but we
weren’t ever sure in the beginning.
We were never certain that the character
of Natalie
Teeger would catch on and be
someone that we could write with
as much confidence as Sharona.
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Happily,
we quickly realized that she was.
This was a character that we all,
more importantly, adored as much
as Sharona. In fact, I’ll
say this for the record, much as
I loved the character of Sharona,
I think Natalie is first among equals.
I love her character and I love
Traylor in the part. The reason
is -- and this just comes down to
personal taste -- she just is warmer
to Monk than Sharona was. Sharona
cared deeply for Monk, but there
was this tough-love aspect to her
relationship with him that I never
quite warmed up to. Natalie’s
a lot more nurturing. So with a
gun to my head, I would say I might
prefer the episodes with Natalie
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MFP:
Was there ever any consideration
of other assistants before you settled
on Traylor as Natalie?
David:
There was an audition process and
there were some talented people
who came in, but Traylor really
had that rare combination of warmth
and relatibility and humor that
the part required. It’s our
fault entirely that we don’t
always give her enough comedy to
play, but when we do she knocks
it out of the park. Even when we
don’t, she finds little bits
of business and reactions that are
really very funny.
MFP: In introducing Natalie what
were the main problems in writing
the character?
David:
Again, the problem was in stepping
up and writing a character that
would be as indelible as Sharona,
but in a somewhat different way.
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We
finally hit upon that approach,
which was that Natalie’s approach
to Monk was warmer. I mean, she
addresses him as Mr. Monk unlike
Sharona who called him Adrian. It’s
more of an uncle/niece kind of a
thing in some respects. You know
Monk is like the eccentric uncle
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MFP:
Any plans for Natalie to ever address
him as Adrian?
David:
Well, the dynamic would shift a
bit if she started calling him Adrian.
I guess the short answer is I hope
that she won’t, although nothing’s
impossible.
MFP: What adjustments did you have
to make when Traylor Howard became
pregnant with writing the character?
David:
We clearly had to get a little bit
more clever. For example, the bathing
suit episode was off the table.
I’m joking, but there were
certain situations we couldn’t
put Traylor into as soon as she
started showing. And when she was
really further along we wanted to
get her off her feet as much as
possible. So we tried to accommodate
her. She may have been marginalized
in a couple of episodes, I’m
dry for any specific examples of
that right now, but I’m sure
that you and your readers can come
up with some.
MFP:
Well, I can come up with “Mr.
Monk Visits a Farm."
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That’s
true. That’s true.
MFP: Which she wasn’t in except
for a couple of scenes.
David:
Yes, one that should have leapt
to mind because my name is on it.
MFP:
Exactly. So she was just too far
along at that point to hide it very
well?
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David:
Yeah, but it’s funny. It’s
the kind of a challenge that a lot
of shows face, particularly shows
that have been on the air for a
while. Usually if there’s
a recurring female character quite
often the actress in the role gets
pregnant and they have to start
getting clever in addressing it,
or in hiding it. We hope we were
clever.
MFP: You were. Some of the lamp
placement was very good.
David: [Laughs] Yeah, you got to
give credit to Randy Zisk and the
directors for being artful in that
regard.
MFP: So how do you think the New
Jersey/L.A. split effects the production.
Is it helpful, is it a pain?
David: Opinions vary. We think it’s
helpful. The network might argue
with us. We like the feeling of
autonomy we get from being 2700
miles away from Los Angeles. You
know we have a great relationship
with USA Network and with everyone
there, but we like being able to
be mostly left alone when we write
these stories. Of course when the
scripts are finished the network
will always weigh in. Tony and the
actors will weigh in, but when we’re
taking our first pass at the scripts
we like being left alone. I think
that the geography helps.
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MFP:
Anything you don’t like about it?
David: During the winter? Plenty. You know
obviously there are the extremes in temperature.
At least for me who’s kind of settling
into Los Angeles now, it’s something
I can do without, but keep in mind that
I’m a consulting producer. I’m
part time now. I left the show for half
a year to do a pilot for USA that unfortunately,
as of now, hasn’t been picked up,
though it may find life eventually.
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MFP:
That’s Underfunded?
David:
You’re good Teresa, my God.
MFP: Well, I watched it. They did
show it.
David: They did. They did show the pilot.
They didn’t pick it up for series
yet.
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MFP:
So that’s still up in the air then?
David:
It’s got a pulse. It may yet happen,
one way or another. Watch this space for
more details. But I left for half a year
to do that and when I came back it was as
a consulting producer, which means my responsibilities
were cut if not quite in half, at least
by a third. I’m in the Writers’
Room in Summit now only about 8 to 10 weeks
a year. So your last question may be better
addressed to the writers who are full time,
because they have to be there for a good
ten months out of the year… with the
exception of John
Collier, who’s full time but works
out of LA. When he’s not in the writers’
room at the top of each season, he spends
a good part of his time on set.
MFP:
So do you have responsibilities in L.A.?
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I fill in for Collier on set one day a week
and I write one script a year and I weigh
in by phone on every script to one degree
or another, and again I make two trips to
the writers’ room each year for four
to six weeks at a shot.
MFP: So how are suggestions from one coast
to the other communicated?
David: Well, nowadays tentatively. Are you
saying, how does the network communicate
their suggestions?
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MFP:
Well from the network and just
from the production end of the show to the
writers’ end?
David:
I’ll very briefly walk you through
how that works. What happens is the writer
of record will turn in his script or her
script to my brother who will then take
his pass. That draft gets turned in to the
network. We then have a read-through about
ten days before the start of production
on each script. That’s where all the
actors and all of the production personnel
sit around a table in Los Angeles with a
speaker phone, so that the writers in New
Jersey can hear them, and all of the actors
read the script out loud with the first
assistant director on the show reading the
descriptive stuff. You
know, Monk enters the room and looks around,
that stuff. We and everyone listen and hear
how it plays. At the end of the read through
we’ll have what’s called a notes
session. That’s where everyone involved
will weigh in and say this works and these
other elements don’t seem to work.
We in the Writers’ Room will then
discuss those elements. Some changes we
will agree with, other things we’ll
fight for.
I
should add that Tony has a huge voice in
this. We certainly listen to everyone, but
I would say Tony is first among equals in
those conversations: Tony and Randy Zisk.
But all of the actors have ideas, and they
usually have merit: Ted and Jason and Traylor
and Stanley. They’ll all weigh in
and we’ll really listen to everybody.
We then take our next pass at the script
based on all of these conversations that
follow the read through. That becomes the
production draft, but even during production
questions will come up. Of course Randy
Zisk and the director and John Collier are
present on set to address these things and
the writers in Summit are available by phone
whenever those guys want our input during
shooting, which generally takes seven or
eight days per episode.
MFP:
At this point then, do the actors have a
lot of input into the characters?
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David:
Yes, after the read through, after everybody
has finally seen the script and heard it
spoken aloud, all the actors or most of
the actors will weigh in to one degree or
another, generally about their own characters.
You know, “Is this something my character
would do? Would it be possible that instead
of running up and tearing the umbrella out
of the guys hand I can do something else?”
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Whatever. And
we’ll generally try and accommodate
the actor, because at a certain point
an actor becomes at least as familiar
with his character as you are and actually
in most cases more familiar. That’s
certainly the case with Tony. He knows
Monk better than anybody. He’s got
an unerring instinct for what Monk would
and would not do.
MFP:
I think I remember him mentioning in an
interview that he was a little uncertain
about Monk hearing voices in one episode.
"Daredevil,"
I think. So how do you think that worked?
David: How did it work on set when it
came time to do the scene?
MFP: Yes.
David: Well,
Tony had to make sure that this behavior
was consistent with his character, that
Monk would be hearing these voices. Tony
had to make sure he could justify it and
finally he did and played it great. But
believe me if he couldn’t justify
it, if he had said categorically, “Absolutely
not. There’s no way this scene would
go down like this,” I’m sure
we would have rewritten the scene.
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MFP:
I notice that Emmy
Clarke has just turned 16. Are upcoming
storylines with her going to further explore
her being a real teenager?
David: She may or may not be going for
her driver’s exam.
MFP: Oh.
David:
Watch this space, yes. We’re going
to definitely be writing to that. And
she may or may not end up as an unwed
mother in a dirty, desert commune.
MFP:
I don’t believe you.
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David:
No, you’re right. That was a joke.
That will definitely not happen.
MFP: So what is your favorite episode
or episodes and why?
David:
“Three
Pies” turned out great. I mean
many episodes turned out great, but “Three
Pies” is one that’s in almost
everyone’s top three. “Mr.
Monk Takes His Medicine” is one
that I also love. Of the ones that I wrote
I guess I’m proudest of “Back
to School” simply because I’m
particularly proud of the murder in that
episode. I don’t want to ruin it for
anyone who hasn’t seen it, but the
killer has a seemingly unbreakable alibi:
He was on the campus of this private school
when this woman seemed to commit suicide
a quarter of a mile away by leaping off
a clock tower. Monk is sure that this gentleman
is lying, that he had something to do with
her death, but his alibi is unbreakable.
He was proctoring the SATs at the same time
this woman’s body was heard to hit
the roof of a car at the base of the clock
tower. Monk knows he did it but he doesn’t
know how… until the end. And it’s
what this guy did to give himself the alibi
that I’m particularly proud of. I
don’t pat myself on the back very
often but I will in this case.
MFP: So generally are the mystery parts
more difficult than the comedy parts to
come up with?
David:
Without question, yeah. All of us have comedy
backgrounds and it’s something that
we’re pretty good at. We all love
mysteries and we think we’re good
at them, but it doesn’t get any easier.
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Dan Dratch |
We’re
constantly trying to avoid doing variations
of plots we came up with in other seasons.
You know, when you’re getting up near
80 or 90 some episodes, this gets harder
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